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Need to Know: Ripple effects if Forbath can't go

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Need to Know: Ripple effects if Forbath can't go

Here is what you need to know on this Saturday, September 14, one day before the Redskins play the Packers at Lambeau Field.

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1. Packers linebacker Clay Matthews was fined $15,000 for his out of bounds hit on 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick last Sunday. It prompted Kaepernick to deliver one of the better tough guy lines in recent memory. “If intimidation is your game plan, I hope you have a better one,” he said after the game. Robert Griffin III likely has the same frame of mind. It’s doubtful that the fine will deter Matthews, who signed a contract extension that pays him about $13 million a year, from doing much of anything.

2. It will be interesting to see what happens if Kai Forbath can’t kick on Sunday. He was listed as questionable on the injury report with a groin problem. It seems that John Potter, who was with the team in training camp, would be the replacement kicker. But if Potter is needed somebody will have to be removed from the 53-man roster. It seems that fourth quarterback Pat White is the logical candidate but that may not happen. They might choose to let go of Rex Grossman and bring him back on Monday, perhaps concerned that White would be claimed on waivers. As a vested veteran Grossman is not subject to waivers.

3. All of the other Redskins besides Forbath were listed as probable. Green Bay is a bit more banged up. They list two starters, safety Morgan Burnette (hamstrong) and guard Josh Stitton (back), as questionable. Also questionable is backup corner Jarrett Bush (hamstring). Another reserve cornerback, Casey Heyward (hamstring) is out.

4. I don’t want to give a spoiler to a post that Tarik is doing on Jordan Reed later today but the rookie said that he played every third down snap against the Eagles. He played 25 snaps in all. Keep an eye on his playing time, he could be getting groomed to replace Fred Davis.

5. Is Leonard Hankerson finally getting it? Kyle Shanahan thinks so.

“Hank has done a good job. I think he’s gotten better every year since he’s been here. He’s had some games that, to us, are real good games that you guys don’t always get to see, because really I think everyone only sees the receivers when they get the ball. Hank has done a pretty good job separating in a lot of games that he hasn’t gotten the ball in. This game, he did have a good game, and the balls came his way. The coverages got him the ball and he capitalized on them.”


Stat of the day

—Josh Morgan averaged 12.8 yards per reception (4 rec./51 yds.) against the Eagles. Last year he averaged just 10.6 per catch, the second lowest of his five-year career. His career best was 15.9 per reception with the 49ers in 2010 (44/698)

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—Former Redskins linebacker Kurt Gouveia was born on this date in 1964.

—Days until: Redskins @ Packers 1; Lions @ Redskins 8; Redskins @ Raiders 15

—Today’s schedule: No availability, team flies to Green Bay

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Over/under: Redskins running backs in 2017

Over/under: Redskins running backs in 2017

Redskins running backs over-under

The Redskins’ running backs depth chart looks quite different from how it did a year ago. Rob Kelley, who was “ninth-string” back last year per Jay Gruden, is the starter. Samaje Perine enters the mix with expectations that exceed those normally assigned to a fourth-round pick. Chris Thompson is the constant as the third-down back. What kind of numbers will they put up this year? Redskins Insiders Rich Tandler and JP Finlay go over-under on some Redskins running back stats. 

Rob Kelley, 1,000 rushing yards

Tandler: If you project Kelley’s production in the nine games he started over 16 games it comes to about 1,050 yards. He had his ups and downs in those nine starts and he will have them this year. But he should have enough ups to be able to average the 62.5 yards per game needed to hit the thousand-yard mark. Over

Finlay: Unlike wide receivers, where 25 guys broke the 1,000 yard mark in 2016, it's getting harder and harder for a running back to hit four-figures. In 2016, only 12 RBs ran for more than 1,000 yards, and only eight got over 1,100 yards. As the NFL becomes more and more of a passing league, less backs are getting the carries sufficient for a 1,000 yard season. The Redskins haven't had a 1,000 yard rusher since Alfred Morris in 2014. While I think Kelley gets the bulk of the yardage, I think it caps out about 900 yards and Chris Thompson and Samaje Perine creep into the total. Under

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Kelley, 10 rushing touchdowns

Tandler: He scored six as the starter last year and doing the math that comes to 11 over 16 games. But last year there wasn’t a player like Perine, who could come into the game and vulture some touchdowns after Kelley did the work to get the ball in goal to go position. Under

Finlay: Sorry to keep going back to stats, but last year only seven running backs got to 10 TDs or more. Only seven! Hard to see Kelley getting there on a team that didn't run all that much, or all that well either, in 2016. Under

Samaje Perine, 500 rushing yards

Tandler: It tough to set a line for a guy who hasn’t played. I’ll go off Matt Jones’ 2015 rookie season when he gained 490 yards while sharing time with Alfred Morris. If Perine averages four yards per carry, which is not hard to do, he’ll need about eight carries per game to get to 500. It’s close but if Kelley is effective, as I believe he will be, Perine might not get enough carries to have a chance. Under

Finlay: Tandler's Matt Jones comp pretty much works for Perine, but Jones had explosive speed that Perine doesn't have. A better comp for me was Derrick Henry last year as a rookie with the Titans. DeMarco Murray was established as the top dog, and Henry worked for a productive 490 yards. Under

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Chris Thompson, 60 pass receptions

Tandler: His role is beyond just third down. If the Redskins are behind in the fourth quarter, Thompson is usually in there to try to help spark a rally. Along with TE Jordan Reed and WR Jamison Crowder, Thompson will benefit from Kirk Cousins’ familiarity with him. Over

Finlay: Thompson should be a strong contributor in 2017, but 60 catches is a lot for a running back. Only David Johnson (80) and Le'Veon Bell (75) went over that number in 2016, while James White had exactly 60 catches. Thompson grabbed 49 balls in 2016, an impressive total. I could actually see Thompson getting a bigger percentage increase in carries, he had 68 rushes last season with a very solid 5.2 YPC, than catches. Under

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