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Minicamp Day 2: Defense gets the best of it

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Minicamp Day 2: Defense gets the best of it

Notes from the second and, as Mike Shanahan announced, final practice of the Redskins' minicamp. Since tweeting is not allowed from practice the notes are presented in Twitter-sized bites.--Orakpo looks great on his feet, very vocal, still being limited in team drills due to torn pectoral in season finale.--D-line and some of the backers working on some pre snap shifts. They need all of this to be second nature by the time preseason games start.--As one might guess, RG3 and Kyle are pretty well joined at the hip out here on the field. A Constant stream of feedback from teacher to pupil.--Generally speaking the run pursuit by the defense has bee excellent with a lot of hustle to the ball No pads, no contact so no grand conclusions can be drawn but still good to see. --Rob Jackson is one player who can keep up with Griffin when he's rolling out. The QB had to throw the ball away as he was running out of room. Not that Jackson could win a foot race with RG3 but he is quick and has good lateral speed.--Only surprise nonparticipant is Cooley. We will ask Shanahan about him after practice but expect it is precautionary.--Richard Crawford had both hands on a pass near the sideline and could nor hold on. It would have been a nice grab but players like Crawford need to make plays like that.--A bit of excess celebration among a few receivers after Austin caught a long TD pass from Rex. It was a Fun Bunch revival, a group high five that might be worth the 15 yards if it happened in a game.--Nice pass from Cousins to Robinson. Cousins rolled out and launched the pass just before going out of bounds at about the 45. Robinson made the grab just short of the end zone.--Rackers nails a 50-yarder right down the middle with plenty to spare. As Shanny said yesterday the competition will go all the way to the very end.---Cousins displays a good arm and quick release with passes to Paulsen and Darius Hanks.--RG3 not having one of those "can complete every pass and do anything" days. He is just flat missing some receivers. He does not look happy as he takes a break on the sideline.--Not a whole lot of action for Minnifield today. I think they saw what they needed to see yesterday.--Nice long pass from Rex to Paul but the play took so long to develop that the QB would have been sacked twice in the time it took to get rid of it.--It continues to not be Griffin's day Hall with an easy pick of an RG3 pass. QB rolled out and threw it right to the CB.Post practice--Shanahan said that the players will meet in the morning, do a workout, but there will be no practice.--Shanahan said that Cooley was out due to a minor hamstring pull. He probably would have gone if it was the regular season.--Shanahan said that he expects all injured players to be ready for the start of training camp.--Santana Moss said, The defense got the better of the offense today.

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Need to Know: How many Redskins roster spots are up for grabs in 2017?

Need to Know: How many Redskins roster spots are up for grabs in 2017?

Here is what you need to know on this Sunday, February 19, 18 days before the March 9 start of NFL free agency.  

Timeline

Days until:

—NFL Franchise tag deadline (3/1) 10
—NFL Combine (3/2) 11
—Redskins offseason workouts start (4/17) 57
—NFL Draft (4/27) 67
—First Sunday of 2017 season (9/10) 203

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How many spots up for grabs? A quick mid-February look down the final 2016 53-man roster shows about 20 players who may not be on the roster for Week 1 this year. This includes players who may depart as free agents and others who just won’t make the team. They probably won’t turn over that many spots but it does show that a lot of jobs are up for grabs.

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How many draft picks? The Redskins have nine draft picks, their own in rounds 1-6 and extra picks in rounds 4, 5, and 6. It’s easy to say that Scot McCloughan may turn that into as many as a dozen picks, especially with all the roster spots that may be open. But remember that last year the Redskins wound up with just seven picks with no pick in the fourth and two in the seventh. McCloughan may intend to stockpile more picks but it depends on how the draft unfolds.

1st-round RB a bad idea: Yesterday JP and I posted on the topic of Rob Kelley as the Redskins’ prime running back this season and it drew quite a bit of discussion on Twitter and on Facebook. I think that they should try to get an upgrade over Kelley but I don’t think they should use their first-round pick to do it. There are just too many other, higher priority needs.

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A turnaround for Matt Jones? Last year Trent Murphy broke out after two mediocre seasons to register eight sacks. Can Jones do the something similar in this, his third season? The rough equivalent of Murphy’s performance would be Jones rushing for 800 yards. It’s as much a matter of him holding on to the ball as anything. Jones was on pace to rush for over 1,100 yards before losing his grip on the starting job, literally and figuratively.

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Redskins offseason questions: Will Rob Kelley be the lead running back?

Redskins offseason questions: Will Rob Kelley be the lead running back?

The good news for the 2016 Redskins was that they didn’t collapse after winning the division the previous season as has been their pattern in the past. The bad news was that they didn’t take the next step and improve from a franchise that can compete to make the playoffs into one that is playing multiple postseason games year in and year out.

That work begins right now for Jay Gruden, Scot McCloughan and the players. In the coming weeks, Redskins reporters Rich Tandler and JP Finlay will examine the biggest questions facing the Redskins as another offseason gets rolling.

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Will Rob Kelly be the lead running back?  

Tandler: Right off the bat here, let me say I like a lot about how Kelley plays. My contribution to this post may come off as “anti” Kelley but it’s just to provide balance to the gushing praise of Kelley that will ensue in JP’s part below.

Kelley started the last nine games of the season, getting the job after Matt Jones took his opportunity and imploded. The undrafted free agent played well. If you project the numbers from his nine starts out over 16 games you get 268 carries for 1,068 yards with 11 touchdowns.

That’s fine, but is it a strong enough performance to hand him the job, similar to the way that Jones was handed the job in 2016? Gaining a thousand yards is a good season but 12 backs got there this year. Kelley’s 3.98 yards per carry average as a starter would have been 26th in the NFL among backs with enough carries to qualify.

Again, a good season but not good enough that a team that has deep playoff aspirations should give him the job with no competition. There should be a vigorous battle for the job this year. Jones will still be around and maybe he will pull a Trent Murphy and suddenly become productive in Year 3. We haven’t seen a whole lot of Mack Brown but I’ve seen enough to want to see more. With nine draft picks, it would not be surprising to see Scot McCloughan grab a running back somewhere along the line. I’m not sure if Keith Marshall, last year’s seventh-round pick, can stay healthy but if he can they should line him up and see what he can do.

May the best back win. If that’s Kelley, good for him.

Finlay: Tandler going full hater mode early. I like it. As listeners of #RedskinsTalk the Podcast know, Rich and I have disagreed on Fat Rob for months. Before a knee injury slowed him down late in the year, Kelley was averaging well over 4 YPC and showed good movement behind the line of scrimmage as well as in the hole and beyond. He flashed plenty to be the lead runner in 2017.

But enough from me. Here's what Jay Gruden said of Kelley after the season ended:

"He’s one of the guys that I’m sure will probably have a scope when he’s done at the end of the season. I think great, great year for him as far as a rookie coming in as a free agent, being thrown into the fire like he was and performing like he did. I think there’s a lot of improvement that’ll be made with Robert. He’s going to get stronger, even get in more better shape. He’s going to understand the 16-game season, what it entails, how demanding it is on his body. He’s going to get himself ready to go. But he’s shown great vision, great toughness in the hole, great ball security. I think that’s a good starting point."

Competition is good, let the backs fight it out in Richmond, but I think Kelley wins the job again assuming the same group of RBs comes back. After gainging 700 yards in just nine starts in 2016, a 1,000 yard season is certainly in play for 2017.

More offseason questions: 

What are reasonable expectations for Josh Doctson?

— Will there be a surprise salary cap cut?

— Should the Redskins defense switch to the 4-3?

— Is Spencer Long the answer at center?

— How many D-linemen do the Redskins need?

— Should the Redskins draft another QB? 

— With Sean McVay gone, will the Redskins run the ball more?

Can Cravens handle the transition to safety? 

Will the Redskins re-sign Pierre Garçon? 

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